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Cartao de contribuinte (tax card)

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Cartao de contribuinte (tax card)

Post Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:27 am

Hope someone can help.
I am hoping to enrol my daughters at the International school - not decided on Vilamoura or Lagoa yet, anyway, the enrolment forms ask for a copy of mine and my husbands tax cards (Cartao de conribuinte).
We will not be applying for residency yet as we are having a trial period from Sept to end June - then if we like living in the Algarve will apply for residency.
We both work for UK companies and will continue to do so and will be paying UK tax on our earnings (we work for internet based firms).
Can anyone tell me would we require the above if not paying portuguese tax, if so how do you do it and do you need to be a resident to do so ?

 

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Re: Cartao de contribuinte (tax card)

Post Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:55 pm

You will need the card for all dealings in Portugal. You do not need to be a resident.
You need to complete a form at the local tax office (finanças) in the area where you will be staying and provide a photocopy of the identification pages of your passport.
It costs €5-7.

 

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Re: Cartao de contribuinte (tax card)

Post Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:46 pm

Great thanks.
So what exactly is the card used for ? Identification purposes or something?

 

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Re: Cartao de contribuinte (tax card)

Post Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:41 pm

Without it you cannot do almost any legal act, that might be buying or renting property or taking on utilities for your house.

 

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Re: Cartao de contribuinte (tax card)

Post Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:47 am

Hi Nimitza,
Your not getting mixed up with a fiscal card are you?
A fiscal card is all you need to buy things, utilities,
Gags

 

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Re: Cartao de contribuinte (tax card)

Post Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:33 am

Fiscal Nº/card, NIF Nº/card (número de identificação fiscal), Contribution Nº/card (número de contribuinte) are all one and the same thing. You need this number to do virtually anything in Portugal, including opening a bank account, buying a house, long-term renting etc etc etc. If you are non resident in Portugal you also need to appoint a fiscal representative by law. You will need to tell this to the Serviço das Finanças office when you apply for the number and complete the form. The fiscal rep is responsible for all your bills/debts in Portugal and for making sure that you get your bills/correspondence. It is usually someone like an accountant, financial adviser or legal rep, as the responsibilities are quite onerous.

Tax residency is a different matter. If you spend 183 days or more in Portugal then in theory you should complete an annual tax return (IRS return) to declare your worldwide income. I would suggest that you check out your tax implications with the UK tax office before you leave the UK. Portugal has an agreement with the UK to avoid double taxation.

 

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Re: Cartao de contribuinte (tax card)

Post Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:00 pm

Hi
We are doing the same - and running our UK business remotely! So we are still tax payers in the UK.
We just got our Portuguese solicitor to apply for a Fiscal Number for us - We got it the next day - as we needed this to enrol at the school and to put a deposit on some land. We will also need it to open a bank account.

I think the school are fairly flexible because they also ask for a utility bill and address in Portugal which we won't have until the children have started!
I'm still looking into the tax implications - My husband will be working and paying in Portugal and I will have a UK salary.
Will let you know when I find out more.

Are you still looking for a rental? Because we had 4 lined up from September and have chosen the 'ideal' one for us and let the others go.
Let me know.

 

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