long term lease in Liamosol

benuasalbarb · Newbie Joined: Jul 18, 2007 Posts: 2 Location: scotland

\My husband has been offered a long term job in Limasol. I woiuld be looking to
bring 3 show rough collies who wre well trained.
We would want a house witha garden and a poool.
we woul;d want an unfuirnisjhed house. Any ideas om where to start looking.
We come from tjhje Uk an plan ondriving a we dont wnt the dogs flyong on the hold.
any advivew would be appreciatee
thanks
Barbara

sevener · Newbie Joined: Jul 30, 2009 Posts: 6 Location: Cyprus

You can't legally drive to Cyprus.
If you come in via Turkey and the north you WILL eventually either have your car impounded (and possibly destroyed) or you will have to leave by the same way you entered and re-import it through a legal port of entry.
Your best option is to drive some of the way and have the car ferried over from say greece or Italy and then fly here yourself.
The only other option is to come out on a merchant boat as paying passengers, but I'm not sure if they will allow dogs on these boats.
Unfortunately all the ferries to southern Cyprus stopped years ago.
I researched this before I came out and had loads of web links that you would have found useful. However I suferred a hard drive crash on my laptop last week and whilst I paid someone to recover my documents and photos I have lost all my bookmarks (Sorry).

Brian.

benuasalbarb · Newbie Joined: Jul 18, 2007 Posts: 2 Location: scotland

Thanks for that although i did thinkit would have been posible. I guess I would have tgo fly the dogs over then. Can we still bring the car from what I have read on teh boards second hand cars are expensive purs is a Ford Focus estate and is fitted out with cages for he dogs safety whilst driving.
I have looked at the Cyprus Kennel Club and I would be able to register my dogs and show them in Cyprus. iI wouldn't be working so this is my hobby.
Would it cost a lot to get the car over?
I appreciate your reply there is sp much to get your head round
Banbara

CyprusLiving · Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:23 pm Post subject: Re: long term lease in Liamosol

Second hands cars are a little more expensive here but when you put all the importing charges onto your car you will find it may cost you more money in the long term, certainly I would not consider this..

Regarding driving here it can be done in fact we have members who brought their dogs over in their van, it took some organising and again if you consider all cost it will be cheaper to sell your motor and fly in with your pets..

all the best

sevener · Newbie Joined: Jul 30, 2009 Posts: 6 Location: Cyprus

CyprusLiving wrote:

Second hands cars are a little more expensive here but when you put all the importing charges onto your car you will find it may cost you more money in the long term, certainly I would not consider this..

Regarding driving here it can be done in fact we have members who brought their dogs over in their van, it took some organising and again if you consider all cost it will be cheaper to sell your motor and fly in with your pets..

all the best

This is IMHO bad information.
Where do 100% of the cars in Cyprus come from?
There are NONE that get here by magic!
NONE are manufactured here!
Every car on the island has to be imported so why not do it yourself and cut out the middle man.
It is a relatively straightforward process and many have done it.
Regarding the cost it is only the higher engine capacity cars that attract high import duty so as long as your car is under 1600cc I would say go for it.
It used to be that the authorities charged Cyprus VAT on cars that either you hadn't owned for at leats 6 months or had a very low mileage. This is now not the case any more.
I would say that if your car is in good condition and has been fitted out with specialist cages for the transportation of your dogs then ship it over.

The bottom has dropped out of the second hand car market here and there are some bargains to be had if you shop around but I firmly believe in "better the devil you know." It is very rare to get a service history with a second hand car here and there are some dodgy cars around.
It's a paradise for shady car dealers, both Cypriot and British and you do not get the same levels of consumer protection that you do in the UK.

The statement that it is possible to drive here as far as I know is simply untrue if you want to remain legal.
You cannot enter with or without a car from the north legally.
When you try to register the car you will be asked for a "Bill of Lading" which will be issued and stamped by the port of entry authorities.
If this is in the north your car will be impounded.
When you go to register your presence on the island you will be asked (amongst many other questions) to provide documentary evidence of your date and place of entry. If this is via the north you will be deemed to have entered the country through an illegal port and may well be refused entry.
Gwenny (of Gwenny's Red Tape Services, Paphos) has many such cases that she has reached a dead end with.

If there is a boat that will take a car, passengers and pets (ie. a ferry) that comes into a port on the south of the island it must be a very well guarded secret.
Poseidon lines stopped the ferry service into Limassol in 2003.
As far as I am aware no other company currently offers a car ferry service.

CyprusLiving · Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: long term lease in Liamosol

Bad info? well I do personally know of two members from my website who have done this, personally I would never bring a dog or a motor here one because dogs are not pets here and are poisoned and can get bitten by snakes, fact, as for bringing a motor here remember that you have to register it and you may be liable for other import tax, our neighbor was told to pay £18.000 import tax (not euro's) for their new 4x4 they shipped out here, they sent it back at great expense, I have over the years heard many cases like this, some have been brought here easily and have gone through the import procedure, but unfortunately many have not, and I say is it worth that risk?

Regarding the drive here not an option that I would take, but yes it is possible and no it's not a secret..

here are just a few post that give some recent details of people driving and importing a motor to Cyprus, one member says he drove in a van with his dogs to Piraeus in Greece the by by Freighter ( craned on ) the shipped with his belonging and pets to Limassol, now I do not know what is needed regarding veterinary items but I am sure if you ask this question on CyprusLiving someone will have an answer for you..

Link www.cyprusliving.org/p...ing+cyprus

Here is just one post off that thread..

All,

I have just imported a car on the Ro-Ro from the UK (arrived 24/10/08 the method was as follows:

Arrange shipping - I was charged £1150.00 including collection & delivery to Southampton, shipping to Limassol and Shipping Insurance.

You will need to organise a clearing agent at a cost of about €495.00 to include his fees and all the Port Fees in Limassol. This took about 2 hours in total at Limassol docks. Our shipping agent recommended our clearing agent but it may be worth getting some prices for this. We just asked for clearance for 10 days, which gave us 10 working days to pay the Import Duty.

You will then need to get an Emissions Certificate from Road Transport Department in Mesogi Industrial Area, this is free of charge.

You will then need €50.00-€60.00 for a Local Clearing Agent to open & update an Electronic Customs File, without this you cannot pay the duty.

You will need to wait 45 minutes from this being done to the computer in the Customs Office being updated. Take a break in one of the coffee shops near the government offices, if you have got this far you have earned it.

You then need to pay Import Duty in the local government offices on Neofytou Nikolaidi it is the first floor of the building at the rear (not land registry, the other end), the offices are open from 08.15 until 13.30. The Import Duty can be calculated by using the calculator available from:
www.mof.gov.cy/mof/cus...enDocument

You will also need 5 x €1.71 Duty Stamps, 1 for the customs office and 4 for Road Transport Department later. Customs will also want to inspect the car and check the Chassis Number and mileage, this is an informal and very quick check.

Once you have paid the duty you will be given a certificate to enable you to get an MOT test carried out, the MOT costs about €35.00. Make sure the tester shows you where to find your Chassis Number AND Engine Number as you will need to show these to the inspector at the Road Transport Department.

You can then take all the paperwork you have been issued and the car to the Road Transport Department and register the car. The car will be inspected and measured. The Registration fee can be calculated by using the spreadsheet available from:
www.mcw.gov.cy/mcw/rtd...enDocument

The Road Tax needs to be paid at the same time, and can be calculated by using the same spreadsheet. You will need to pay for the months remaining in that year. So if you did it mid-October you will need to pay 3/12 of the total for the year.

Once you have the Registration Paper, Proper MOT Certificate and Tax Disc from the Road Transport Department you can go and get your number plates made at a cost of €22.00.

You will need:
Cash for Clearing Agent & Port Fees.
Cash or Visa card for import Duty
Cash for Duty stamps
Cash for Registration Fee & Road Tax
Cash for MOT
Passport
Driving Licence
V5 from UK
Invoice from dealer if V5 is not in your name
Bill of Loading from Shipping Agent
Cover Note from Insurance Company in Cyprus

You will be given a huge amount of paperwork, receipts, tickets and print outs along the way. Keep ALL of it with you throughout this process as at some point you WILL need them and without them you will loose a lot of time.

In total it took us 1 day to get to the point of getting the MOT and then we went to the Road Transport Department on a Thursday evening between 15.15 and 18.00 to get it registered.

Please be polite and take a sense of humour with you. I know the process seams a bit long-winded and annoying but the people behind the desk are really helpful and are just doing their job the best they can. We did not come across any corruption and things went very smoothly.

You can employ a red-tape company to help you with this but we did not think it was necessary as it does not save you any time, money or hassle, especaillay as you have to be there with them anyway.

As you are importing the car yourself you will not need to pay VAT on the vehicle which will make it cheaper than a car dealer and there are no profit-margins being added on so it will save a fair amount of money. We also liked being able to check the history of the vehicle as it is rare to get a service history in Cyprus and there is no register for written-off vehicles.

N.B The above is for a DUTY PAID vehicle in Paphos.

Regards,

Newlyweds

sevener · Newbie Joined: Jul 30, 2009 Posts: 6 Location: Cyprus

More bad, confusing info.
These examples are people who have SHIPPED cars over NOT people who have DRIVEN here.
I stand by my original post.
Since full EU membership and the ending of the "concessions" period in April of this year, importation of cars has become more standardised.

Cyprus living seems to use this site purely as a source of advertising for his own forum. Which rather ironically does not allow such cross posting and advertising.

Whilst in some areas of the island dog ownership can be a liability it is certainly not the case island wide.
In areas of high, irresponsible, Brit population, many of the locals (with some justification) have had enough.
The Cypriots generally see dogs as "dirty" animals and rarely allow them into their homes. Equally they do not walk them and allow them to foul the roads as many Brits do.
When bringing dogs here you need to be aware that there are very few places where you can, safely, exercise your dogs off lead.
I am lucky. I live in a small village, in the country, not the town and have a great many dirt roads in the vicinity which are fairly safe.
The locals in my village are generally dog friendly and will even allow well behaved dogs on leads in the bars.
Unlike in the UK, letting dogs off the lead in parks (If you can find one) and on beaches is simply not allowed. (there is now one dog friendly beach on the whole island, although each district is supposed to provide one)
Quite honestly the chances of dogs getting bitten by snakes is fairly low. I know of people who refuse to allow dogs off lead at any time due to these fears and phobias. My personal feeling is that you should let them be dogs. There are very few poisonous snakes here and only one that will cause death and you would be somewhat unlucky to encounter one.
regarding poisoning yes there are areas where poison is used. (as it is in areas in the UK) However: things are improving slowly. The banning of Lanate and other toxic substances by the EU has helped, although there is a rumour that the Cypriots are using another poison on fields which was never intended for that purpose.

I wish you luck in bringing your dogs and car here and would be happy to give any guidance that I can to make that task easier, having done both myself as have countless others.
Regarding flying the dogs over. One of my 2 a fairly highly strung, first cross, Yellow Lab, German Shepherd, found the whole process highly traumatic (but she hates car travel as well). She took about a week to recover fully from the experience. My other dog, a Parsons Russell. was fine and sufferred no ill effects at all from the trip.

CyprusLiving · Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:10 am Post subject: Re: long term lease in Liamosol

As I said severner (no name?) there are several who have done just this on Cyprusliving, personally I feel it unfair to actually link this here to those members but I am sure they know what they are talking about, two ladies with two dogs and boyfriends drove down from the UK to Brindisi in Italy and shipped the van, themselves and animals to Cyprus on a freighter, now you can say all you wish in your postings but I am telling you it can be done, if you wish to do a search on CL you will find plenty who have done just this..so less of the bad info, unfortunately it is you who is doing this.

Another stupid comment about snakes, my daughter has lost two of her dogs to snake bites, but poisoning animals here is a big problem, you say things are improving on this, then what is going on near Coral Bay this week, six dogs have been poisoned!!!! I am sure you know CL and have read the same info as you have posted.

Regarding me using this site to ''advertise'' CL I have no need to do this, but unlike some Paphos/Cyprus based forums it is original and has many years of members postings that do know what they are talking about, this forum is a great staring point and I was a moderator here and I always have done my best to help not advertise my forum that does not need any plugs..what is your motive to be here??.

By the way sevener CL gets over two K hits a day, why do I need to advertise? Rolling Eyes

here is a link that will give anyone more info in bringing OR shipping a car to Cyprus, as for animales you will also find an animale section..

www.cyprusliving.org/p...m.php?f=34

sevener · Newbie Joined: Jul 30, 2009 Posts: 6 Location: Cyprus

OH dear,
Somewhat agressive.
I'll not be bothering to reply.

CyprusLiving · Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:30 pm Post subject: Re: long term lease in Liamosol

Really glad about that, as you seem to be an argumentative member from the P Pirates site..well known to some of us.