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Permanent Visa

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Re: Permanent Visa

Post Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:04 pm

Hello - I was going to post a similar query to this so this thread has been very useful. Ive been quoted around 5k (inc visa fees) by a UK based consultant so was keen to see if and how I could complete the process myself. I am now thinking either that I do the forms myself or use a Canadian lawyer. With this in mind, I have two questions. Firstly, how complex are the application forms and how do you get hold of them; secondly you mentioned a lawyer would be more expensive than an agent - is the 5k I've been quoted a good guide figure?

I would be grateful if you could let me know the details of the lawyer mentioned above - we're going to Toronto soon for a recce visit and it would be useful to meet if he/she is local, as I suspect I'll need help with the process!!

Many thanks!

 

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Re: Permanent Visa

Post Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:33 pm

Hello dwight_van_man,


Thanks for your contribution and inquiries.


Here is my feedback based on your questions:

Q1. How complex are the application forms and how do you get hold of them?

A1. The forms are moderately complex, as would be expected with administrating such a serious thing as citizenship/residency. I believe an immigration lawyer/consultant would be able to provide you example of the forms.


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Important point: The real value of a lawyer/consultant is not necessarily the assistance with application forms (although that can also be a blessing), but rather, that Canada sees that you are represented by a professional who has vested (and legal) responsibility to ensure your application is analyzed, accurate and complete.

Not only does this ensure that the Immigration Canada will be more inclined to approve your request with less hassle, but it will also ensure that your personal case is represented in the best possible light and leverage. (Doing it ourselves, we may not know the most ideal way to present ourselves within the application.)

An analogy would be personal criminal court case (or divorce)...Yes, we could represent ourselves. We have every legal right to, and we might even be able to get through the administrative process, but:

- Are we doing ourselves justice in the eyes of the court? No.

- Are we going to be taken as seriously or legitimately as somebody who hires a lawyer for court? Probably not.

Not the best analogy I know, but I hope it helps to highlight the 'real' value of expert representation when immigrating.

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Q2. Is the 5k I've been quoted a good guide figure?

A2. I am not certain if you mean Canadian Dollars or GBP?

If it's GBP then it might be a high figure, but it also depends on the circumstances of your situation.

A general price-guide range for using a Canadian Immigration Lawyer is: $3k to $5k Canadian Dollars - sometimes higher, but rarely lower than that. Visa fees are usually not included, but can be.

Hope the above information is useful for you!

My final suggestion is to ensure you connect with a Relocation Management firm (regardless whether you stay with UK immig. consultant or not), example:

NuPAD Solutions Canada

The reason I suggest this is, they are able to coordinate and co-pilot the entire process for very little cost.

Not only would they arrange for free assessment by one of the country's leading Immigration lawyers (the same one mentioned in this post), but they would also offer the entire support for other critical aspects of your relocation, including: Home-finding, Move of household goods, mortage, career, family, etc. - with the same low cost.

The economies of scale this represents, as well as having all of this support managed from one point of contact, could very well be the most valuable and important decision you make regarding your immigration to Canada.

Any other questions at all, just let me know...

Smile

Warm Regards,

Paul-F


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Re: Permanent Visa

Post Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:05 am

Thanks for the feedback. I am fairly sure we would want to use a lawyer - it makes sense to use a professional when dealing with an issue as great as this - I just couldn't figure out why it would benefit me to use a consultant as well. We've had an initial assessment with a consultant who told us we would be eligible on a points basis but I would still like to sit down with a lawyer when we visit Toronto to talk things through in a bit more depth. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!! I've had a brief look at NuPad too - looks like a great resource. I have a final question though (for now) - I would be looking to work in the mortgage industry when we get over, probably as a broker. I've been in touch with CIMBL and have found the FSCO site with a view to finding out what qualifications I would need, but is there anywhere else you would suggest I look, or do these two organisations cover the basics?
Thanks again

 

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Re: Permanent Visa

Post Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 5:51 am

Hi There

Interested in where you got your 5K figure, is this really £ or is it $. I see you are in Edinburgh if £ then was this from an Edinburgh Lawyer? Sorry for the numerous questions, I ask as I am over in Fife and was quoted almost double this!

I have now been put in touch with a reputable Canadian Lawyer, one which is used for immigration purposes for a large utilities company in Canada. I am waiting on a figure and could let you know if you like.

I thought about doing the forms myself as they appeared relatively standard stuff to me but like the advise given on here then I am going for a lawyer

Take care
Annette

 

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Re: Permanent Visa

Post Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 5:53 am

Oh, and please keep in touch, I may need your services of a morgage broker once there Smile

Annette

 

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Re: Permanent Visa

Post Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:07 am

Hi dwight_van_man,

I'd love to defer your inquiry regarding the Mortgage industry qualification process in Canada, to our preferred Mortgage specialist - who provides impeccable service for hundreds of our clients per year.

A 20-year veteran in the industry who is a main supplier to majority of the Fortune-100 companies in Canada for their relocation needs, she will be the best person to assist you - and perhaps some networking as well!

I will send you the info by PM right now. I will also let the lady know that somebody may be contacting her to discuss qualifications in Canada.

Any further questions at all, just let me know.

Smile

Regards,
Paul-F


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Re: Permanent Visa

Post Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:31 pm

Annette,

The 5k figure was Pounds and was inclusive of the visa fees - I'll dig out the paperwork I was given and PM you the exact details. I'd be delighted to offer my services as a mortgage broker - but I think you might beat me over there!!

Paul,

Many thanks for the contact details - really appreciate that and will be in contact in the next day or so.

Thanks all!!

 

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