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Re: Working smarter, not harder!

Post Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:37 pm

Take care Peter, if your not yet a Resident you are not allowed to use a UK registered vehicle or trailer for "carrying out any type of paid activity in Portugal"

If you have registered Residence then you have the "matriculation" hurdle to cross, apart from the little known law of "permission to transport goods from your Junta".

and we wonder why Portuguese aren't entrepreneurial!


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Re: Working smarter, not harder!

Post Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:22 am

Hi Canoeman - can be either. I'm sure everyone has ideas in either context that others may find very useful.


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Re: Working smarter, not harder!

Post Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:25 am

Hi Peterfc - good on you! Too many people take a negative and/or cynical view. I take my hat off to anyone who is proactive and keeps thinking about how to improve their situation instead of bemoaning their circumstances and decrying those who do try to improve their lot.

Keep up the good work. Canoeman made some good points too.


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Re: Working smarter, not harder!

Post Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:22 am

This is not just a feature of Portugal Pete.

During my career in the UK I have tried to sell survey services with limited success - from one to one interviews with customers/clients to online surveys. Most business owners think they know best.

The recent trends towards online surveys on websites are usually not really trying to determine your your views so that they can improve their service, they just gather information about you to sell on to others.


Politicians and nappies have one thing in common. They should both be changed regularly, and for the same reason.


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Re: Working smarter, not harder!

Post Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:24 pm

Like you styles, particularly Petes (both); but not sure if the average Portuguese knows (or indeed if EFers have mostly forgotten) about the fundamental importance of `customer service` in any business.

Considering facts such as that
• as recently as 35 years ago, there was practically no private enterprise here, &
• most of our native neighbours never benefited from any form of post-primary education
And local folklore, seemingly creating a raft of Portuguese who set themselves targets in the shapes of single-points pinnacles. Maybe the sense of pride and fulfilment is enough; and that coming from the experience of just OWNING and OPENING a lock-up business, regardless of whether it closes again after six months.
(We’ve probably all met someone from the “I HAD MY OWN BMW, aren’t I some kid” brigade, happily adding an admission that the car was re-possessed by the bank after six months).

Maybe there’s a whole generation here who have to go through and get past such short termism.

Or perhaps it’s just the universal things about people and prosperity, already identified above
• I’m special
• I want to BE something
• I’m good enough to manage – on my own, thank you very much
• Don’t tell me ……

As p(k) has clearly identified, the opportunities are here, in Portugal, for any actively employed, more commercially-experienced immigrant to spot a gap, create his advantage by simply applying his knowledge, be successful and prosper.

This means getting the basics sorted (e.g. presumably the first `absolute` for a Restaurant is to get the food right – preparation, presentation, price., etc., whereas manufacturers might concentrate on quality, meeting delivery schedules and so on). Then each might hone up on the USPs that will offer Joe Punter something better and more attractive than is available elsewhere – customisation, after sales service or whatever. Right through to pk`s `extra mile` aspects of WiFi or a library facility.

In my experience, too many people -punters AND providers- forget that, particularly in a start-up situation the customer is King, and always right.
If only because should he, and ultimately all the other customers, walk elsewhere, there IS no business, no opportunity to turn a profit.
Neither is there any substitute for hard graft -an absolute non-option- including the suffering of the slings and arrows of outrageously unfair clients.

I’d certainly recommend EF as a good training adjunct.



... only highlighting a point about which I am concerned.


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Re: Working smarter, not harder!

Post Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:04 pm

This thread must have had a subliminal influence on me >>> DIY, Algarve Style Smile

_________________ the Algarve, only a click away...


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