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Brits in France, could you help me?
Subforums: Property for Sale/Rent
Firstly I'd like to apologise if this is in the wrong area of the forum - it's my first post.
I'll admit that I'm probably writing this post in naïvety, but also with seriousness. I would like to relocate abroad. I feel like I can't afford to live in England. I know that France may not be a better situation, but with the wage bracket that I fall into, the extortionate rent prices and the fact that I, if this is the way things will stay, will never be able to afford to buy a house, I feel like I have to do something whilst I'm still able to. I feel like it's a decision I have to undertake in a way. The government seems to think that younger people don't need the same wage as those over 25, even though we, or at least I, do exactly the same, if not more work, than some of my colleagues who simply get more for being older. I'm stuck.
If I move, and I don't live in a massively expensive area anyway, I will have barely anything left at the end of the month. I can't even afford to take driving lessons at this point. I know that I'm not a special case, and a lot of people are struggling, but if I can take that worry out of my life, I will of course jump at the chance. My boyfriend and I have been together for long time now, he's French, and we were in talks about him moving here, but I have no idea if that's the right thing to do. Is moving to England a poisoned chalice at the moment? Would he, and I, even, be better off in France?
I'm genuinely scared for my future here in England. I can't afford to move out of the family home. I feel terrible since, at the same age, both of my parents were moved out. I feel awful and useless right now.
Have I got this all wrong? What's the better deal in terms of living - France or England? I read that the minimum wage in France is roughly 9.50€ which, even with the exchange rate, is much better than what I'm getting here. Is this a standardised wage, regardless of age?
Apologies for this ridiculous post. But I'm entirely serious. I need advice and would sincerely appreciate it.
Hi, I was interested to read your plea about moving from the UK to France and would your prospects be any better. My husband and I moved to France because you can get alot of bang for your buck if you have a deposit and work to support a mortgage. Most of the people here i've met are trades people setting up on their own or retired people with enough money to buy a house outright as property is so much cheaper. We bought the remains of a derelict farm with a 3 bed stone farmhouse on 3.5 acres for the price of a shed in London, so I totally sympathise.
However, it is not cheap to live here, everything is more expensive (except wine!) and the taxes higher than than in the UK and unless you speak the language well enough you could end up worse off.
Before you make the leap, how about you try being a WOOFER or joining HelpX.net (both free) that way you can live and work in France for as long as you can budget for with your board and lodgings taken care of while you decide if you like it.
There is also the option of live-in jobs, i.e. caretakers/gardeners etc if you have the skills set. The 'Lady' magazine advertises jobs like that. We got our current job through the Lady, so we have somewhere to live and work while we are renovating our farmhouse, we live in a beautiful house in the grounds of a French Manoir all bills paid and rent as part of the wage deal, it's worth looking into, there is also gumtree but be careful, some offer ridiculously low/illegal wages on that site. Do your homework, look into it if it interests you.
I registered on HelpX.net in 2010 at the ripe old age of 50 - so a youngster like yourself will have no problem - and stayed in some amazing locations, met great people and travelled to some very beautiful places, which led me to persuade my reluctant husband to buy a place in France! It's a cheap way to see for yourself what the country and culture are like ....but why stop at France? If you are able to scrape the money together why not head for New Zealand.....you can be a WOOFER or HelpX'er all over the world and if I was 20 years younger NZ would be my first choice, there are plenty of employment opportunities there and the country is truly amazing....obviously the downside is the airfare.
I think the UK has been wrecked by self serving politicians, another reason I left the sinking ship, I hold out hope the UK recovers, but unless you have a spare £50,000 for a deposit, buying your own home will probably never be an option, my children face the same dilemma and have had to settle for making their homes in Council properties, the first generation of our family ever to do so.
Like you, they may never own their own home but a fulfilling job goes along way.
Whatever you decide, one thing is very important.....never give up. I can't remember who said 'winners don't quit, quitters don't win' but it's very true. Good luck!
Never imagine that the grass is greener the other side of the fence....
Anybody contemplating any move must think of the finance and for many that means working. What can you do which the local people can not? In other words you need to be super educated and super-qualified and with a future employer waiting for you. Whilst today with the UK in the EU, one does neither need a residence not work permit, but come March 2019, you may need both. And why should a European administration give you a work permit if you are taking away a job that could be done by a National.
I became an expat by accident for I was not looking for a job. But by chance I just happened to have the qualifications. I could hardly say more in a foreign language than Bon-jour or Guten Morgen at the extreme. For my first week, I was assigned to work with a Swiss of Polish origin. He spoke nine languages and my education commenced. ‘ I should greet everyone in their own language, and speak German within a year.’ Thankfully although we had six or seven nationalities in our office, we used English as a common communications channel. Needless to say not only did I learn German in the year, but a lot more French
Thanks to the arrogance of certain British politicians concerning Brexit, the future for British expats is clouded. Come March 2019, will Brits need work permits in Europe? Already some companies, mine included are avoiding the British. It is sad to say.....
And there are many other aspects of life as a young expat to consider. Will you ever return to the UK or US and where really is ‘home.’ I have friends in many countries, but home is whre I am now.
If you are thinking you may not be able to own your own house,if you go on a site called URBAN MARQUE you can call the boss called Chris,they build timber framed houses and transport them all over the world but for a price example they can do a 130sqm 3 bedroom house for 28.000Euros so check it out and see what you think.
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