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Land Registration/Ownership

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Land Registration/Ownership

Post Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:38 pm

Hi,

Looking for information regarding land registration and ownership.

My mother was from Portugal and she passed away a few years ago. She had bought and inherited land in Portugal. I do not have any documents/deeds of these lands. Where/Who would I need to contact in Portugal to get a list of the lands that she owns?

Your help is appreciated,
Hob

 

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Re: Land Registration/Ownership

Post Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:59 pm

Hi Hob

I recently needed to trace the owner of a property in my village. The Camara where of no help. I went to the Finacas who when asked printed of a copy of every property owner in my village. I could identify the property i needed to know about because the person was English and had an English name. The help i received may be because i know the person in the Finacas office.

So long as you know names you should get some help.

Good luck

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Re: Land Registration/Ownership

Post Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:26 am

Finanças would certainly be a good starting point to make enquiries.

Land / property acquisitions should be officially registered whereupon they are associated to the owner via fiscal number, so if you have a record of your late mother's identifier (NIF) that would probably help, although I don't know whether Finanças are legally empowered to hand out such information willy-nilly on request.

Another alternative might be to try to track down any Portuguese will through the Central Registry Office.


Are you coming to Portugal or hoping to be able to chase it up from abroad?

 

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Re: Land Registration/Ownership

Post Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:25 pm

Thank you both for your reply.

I was told to contact a Notary office so I sent emails to 3 in Viseu but haven't heard back and it's been 3 weeks now. I have also contacted www.predialonline.pt but also got no response.

I don't have a NIF or any documentation that these lands exist under her name. I know the area where these properties exist but not their locations. I was hoping that if I provided proof of her death and proof that my sister and myself are her children, then they would be able to look up the lands registered to her name and transfer them to our names as heirs.

I'm currently not in Portugal but my sister and I will be visiting next month for 3 weeks to finalize this. I just wanted a place in Portugal to contact to make sure we're bringing all the documentation necessary to process this and if we need to do anything beforehand. I have been unsuccessful thus far. We don't know of any existing family members in Portugal that we can contact to assist so I've been searching on the internet.

I will see if I can find a finance office to contact.

Thanks again,
Hob

 

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Re: Land Registration/Ownership

Post Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:07 am

The easiest option, especially if you are not in the country would be to contact an advogada (lawyer) who specialises in property. They would be able to find the information quickly. They will also be able to deal with any legal queries.
I would ensure that the advogada comes recommended by people that have used them


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Re: Land Registration/Ownership

Post Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:42 pm

Hi,
I had same issue when dad passed away 20 years ago. My mom and I tried to sort this out on various trips to Portugal.
In the end we ended up hiring a local specialist in these affairs that was referred to us through others in same situation.
Took 3 years and a lot of leg work on his part but he got it done. I'm originally from Aveiro and don't know if he will go out that far but i can always ask or pass along contact info. It wasn't cheap i remember but well worth it in the end. All the backwater deals of purchase and ownership to avoid taxes and transfer taxes were all resolved. We had lands we thought were ours and used as ours for a generation only to find out the neighbour owned ours and we owned theirs...A mess. He resolved it all. But try asking around for a local specializing in this. Be patient. It will take years. I can pass along my contact and you can see if he knows anyone in your area or if he can help you out. He's literally been a godsend. When a truck smashed into our front gate, he arranged the builder, police reports, and had it rebuilt while mom and I were back in Canada. As i said not cheap but got the job done. I've purchased a few properties in Portugal and have always found that a bit of patience and a good team (legal, accounting, local specialists) are imperative. Things work at their pace and have their rules, just have to accept and go with their flow. Nothing happens tomorrow. Better to pay people who understand the system and have in's and just sign the cheque.
My experiences of dealing with this beauracracy in the most beautiful place. Love it with all it's flaws

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