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Annual Living Expenditure in Bulgaria

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Re: Annual Living Expenditure in Bulgaria

Post Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 6:04 pm

Hi Snowy

I think it is really hard for anyone to give a cost of living figure for Bulgaria - so much depends upon your way of life.

Perhaps the most important thing to bear in mind is not to get too wrapped up in cost analyses but to keep your eye on your expenditure in relation to income?!?!

A lot of expats move here and are on a set income - so even if the food bill goes down from 800 quid a month to 200 then at the same time, this has suddenly gone up from maybe 25 percent of total income to say 50 percent of income....

We live in downtown Sofia and I have to say that we could not manage on less than 1,000 euros a month... by the time we have added in medical insurance, electricity (which one would certainly consider expensive here - similar to UK pricing), etc... - of course, on the other hand, living in the city we do eat out quite a bit so that accounts for some.

Maybe if you could give me a bit more info on the kind of lifestyle you are considering and whereabouts in bg you are going to be plus the type of house you have, etc.... then I can help a bit more. Hope so!

All the best, Jain


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Re: Annual Living Expenditure in Bulgaria

Post Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 7:20 pm

Hi Jain,

The House is typical for the mountain area in Rhodopi, the village is called Kutela which is between Smolyan and Pamporovo.

It is cut into the hillside being 3 stories at the front and one at the back, it is of stone construction with a timber stretcher bed every metre, i believe that this is a Turkish design to withstand earth tremours.

We have stables on the bottom floor and four rooms on the first and second floor making a total of nine, the bottom floor will be used for a washroom and storage.

We have had the roof repaired, the house has been rewired and double glazed the upstairs has been stripped and replastered we have had a inside bathroom fitted.

The floors have been sanded and varnished and we have installed a woodburning stove creating a two bedroomed apartment, work is ongoing to create the same down stairs.

When we bought the house there was an old stove upstairs and the same downstairs which were beyond repair, I think in hindsight that I should have bought a stove with a boiler so I could have run radiators off it.

We do not live a lavish lifestyle but would like to eat out maybe once a week, we are non smokers and probably drink about 1 boottle of wine and 6 bottles of beer between us each week.

I think i will continue to hire a car as and when I visit rather than buy one and leave it stood the rest of the year until we retire in about 4 years.

We have been using a Bulgarian car hire company called Rentacar Bulgaria they have been very good always at the airport on time and they are considerably cheaper than the mainstream companies.

Any information will be greatly appreciated.

Happy New Year

Snowy

 

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Re: Annual Living Expenditure in Bulgaria

Post Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:11 pm

Hi Snowy

ok, thanks for the info - as it is new year's eve, will you give me a couple of days grace or so to try and get proper answers for you please????We're off out celebrating with bg friends tonight and I suspect won't be in a fit state to reply for at least tomorrow !!!!!

Is this ok with you? Will get back to you with detailed reply soonest after that

Meanwhile :
Beer - Becks cans 500 are .70 stotinki each at Metro; more in local outlets
Wine - decent 5 lev a bottle (more for good) - can be found at 3 lev or less but would you wnat to drink it????
Heating - you should be ok with a wood burning stove each for both apartments (presume the apartments are about 60 sq m each?) otherwise, don't whatever you do use electric - far too expensive (we were paying 200 euros a month for that space just to feel 'comfortable'). You'll be cutting up logs or paying far too much for logs cut up for the rest of your life if you have a lot of space; we find wood here much more expensive than even in France - have you investigated lpg, might be a choice although expensive to instal, may be cheaper in the long run ?
Insulation - this is critical - is the house (walls, floors, roof, pipes, windows) - double insulated???
Cars - second cars here expensive - new cars good price - up to you to choose

Hope this is enough to be going on with... will catch up with detailed info soonest

Health and happiness and prosperity in the new year for you

All the best, Jain


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Re: Annual Living Expenditure in Bulgaria

Post Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 12:20 am

Hi Jain,

Very useful info, i will look into the possibility of LPG, in the meantime have a good drink tonight or as we say in Yorkshire (gerrit darn thi neck) which translates to consume it with haste.

Happy New Year

Snowy.

 

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Re: Annual Living Expenditure in Bulgaria

Post Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:59 pm

Hi Snowy

Just got back to the land of the living after the best ny eve we've ever had (gerrit dawn thi neck was right !!!!!!). Ok then, hold on tight now, here we go to your original question

1.the electricity for an average 3 bedroomed house.
Depends upon insulation to start with - we lived in a three bed apartment in Sofia when we first came, badly insulated, and paid 200 euros a month to be anywhere near normal and still couldn't face a shower! Now living in a thoroughly modern apartment (twice the size) with full insulation, double glazing and have spent 30 euros a month heating it

2. is it cheaper to heat the house with wood or oil.
It's not really this, it's more down to insulation. Also, if it's a holiday home, bear in mind that you really ought to heat it to some extent during the winter even if you are not there to stop the problem of burst pipes and all that follows this kind of disaster.

3. weekly groceries for two people who may eat meat say 4 times a week.
Meat??? Well you'll find less of that here than in Britain.... anyway, I took a little analysis of our grocery bills just to see what I could find for you. If we take the trouble to go to somewhere like Metro, then the bill halves pretty much over buying groceries locally - big difference !
Is this for holidays only? for holiday makers? or are you wanting to know about bills for living permanently? Everyone will shop in different ways according to the circumstances, so it's no too easy - to give an idea, we spend about 100 lv a week

4. the cost of labour per hour for say carpenters and bricklayers.
About 30 lv a day for normal labour and 60 lv a day for "master builder" will be round about normal for these days, especially given you are not here most of the time

5. a second hand car possibly a 3 year old Lada or similar
Second hand cars are not cheap here. However, if you are thinking of importing, bear in mind that it will be best to bring in a car with a EUR1 certification to avoid tax. Plus there is vat on top to consider...... If you don't need it to get here, it may be best left until you get settled in... word of warning, don't try and buy a second hand car on your own if you don't speak bulgarian - use a local friend who you trust and will not tell the seller it is for 'our british friends'.

Snowy, you'll be ok - at the end of the day, it is cheaper here and very good too, so don't get too taken over by cost of living, etc...

All the best and happy new year!
Jain


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Re: Annual Living Expenditure in Bulgaria

Post Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:48 pm

Hi there,

if you have any questions on living in beautiful Bulgaria, just mail us. My wife is Bulgarian, were living in Sofia and I run a business in Burgas.


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Re: Annual Living Expenditure in Bulgaria

Post Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:02 pm

That is very kind of you to offer, i see that you are in the Solar Power business, when we move over permanently i may need advice on the possibility of harvesting heat from sunlight.

However that is some years away, at the moment i am just using the property as a holiday home.

It as become apparent to us that all the expats want to help anyone who is trying to set up home in this magical paradise.

vielen danke, ein gutes neues Jahr.

Snowy.

 

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