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Moving to Cairo

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Re: Moving to Cairo

Post Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:02 pm

Hi there ,
in my opinion Nasr city is the best and the closest
Don't worry about traffic jam , the way to Kattamyya is always clear
No way , you have to have a car
90K is more than enough .. a brand new Mitsubishi Lancer 1300cc , air condtioned , manual , full ... ranging between 87000 and 89000 LE ... i'll buy one next friday , wanna join?? :))
For the apartment : 3500 to 4000 LE is fair in down season or for a long period (a year , shall we say) .. During high season (June , July and August) , it could be doubled so lucky you are if you reach Cairo before the high season

wish you luck

 

usama111
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Re: Moving to Cairo

Post Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:37 pm

Some of the posts here have alluded to dents etc in cars, and cars being hit while parked. Driving here is NOTHING like driving in the UK!

I am a committed Petrolhead and have driven cars from 1100cc, to 6750cc, but I would never get into the drivers seat here! My husband drove in UK for 20 years, and still, 3 years on living here, he still is not comfortable driving here.

There's no reason why you shouldn't drive here, but try to take things slowly until you manage to drive among them! Expect no indication, random and sudden lane switching - not forgetting lane sharing!! and a serious difficulty in forseeing when they need to stop. They rarely brake, most usually just swerve into any lane, empty or not. If you are in the lane they want to be in, they will expect you to move over to accomodate them! A blast on the horn usually is enough to warn them of your presence, as mirrors too here are mostly for decoration! hahaha!

Try not to do anything sudden, i.e brake suddenly, you are highly likely to get someone rammed up your back! Roundabouts, if you are actually on the roundabout, it is YOU that needs to give way to oncoming traffic. Red lights and other restrictions are also given barely more than a cursory glance.

Pedestrians seem to have an almost kamakazi approach to crossing the street!

The rules are 'there are no rules' its every man for himself. There are good drivers here, many of them, we have had terrific drivers take us to the airport from Alex, but they are seriously outnumbered by those who really haven't a clue.

Good Luck, wishing you all the best for your time in Egypt!

 

SCT107
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Re: Moving to Cairo

Post Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:53 pm

LOL ,
I totally agree ... Driving here is a big challenge and crossing the street is a bigger one ...
Good luck and have fun


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usama111
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Re: Moving to Cairo

Post Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:43 am

- usama111

LOL ,
I totally agree ... Driving here is a big challenge and crossing the street is a bigger one ...
Good luck and have fun



Crossing the street...... Well, definately NOT for the faint hearted! Have so far been totally unable to fathom out best way of approaching such tasks, attempting local appearance of complete serenity - or is that complete obliviousness - to any traffic and just march on regardless. Any tips from any of the 'older' hands here????

I am almost embarrassed to say that I used to regularly accept the offer from hubby to send someone from his office (only 100 yards away) to help me cross the road.

Now I run the gauntlet all by myself - well with toddler gripped firmly to my hip, and buggy slung over my shoulder, but have still had occasion to unleash some very unladylike language when horn-blasted from behind by a u-turning Lada! That was about 2 weeks or so ago - i haven't been out since...

 

SCT107
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Re: Moving to Cairo

Post Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:44 pm

well, I have been here for 2 years now, and I will let ya in on my secret for crossing the roads, and also in my driving.
First...keep in mind that they take absolutely NO test to get their license here. Its an "every man for himself" kind of attitude (both driving and walking) - Think Wild West !
I have learned that, if the other driver KNOWS that you have seen him, then you are doomed. If they think that you have not seen them, then they get a little cautious. So...my solution is to first to be EXTREMELY aware of every car, bus, walking person around you, then make believe that you don't see them, and go. Wearing sunglasses so that they are not sure of your vision, helps. Also when driving, and you have to cut in front of somone - pick a Mercedes...or a nice car - they don't want anything to happen to their new shiny car. But be ready at all times to swerve, or to brake.
Walking...take it one lane at a time. Try to walk next to an egyptian at first till you get the hang of it...and an older woman is perfect - the idiotic drivers will cut them some slack...a little.
and don't wear fancy shoes...running shoes are best.
and I have noticed that the drivers here use their horns to beep and tell other drivers that they are there, that they exist...kinda like a warning system...they beep at ants, for crying out loud.
they don't have a clue as to what a mirror is for..or what headlights are for.
I drive all over my area here now, but it took me forever to get my guts up to do it, and have driven for almost 40 years...but nothing prepared me for this country.
Just finally had to have a long talk with myself, that I CAN do this...that its just plain stupid NOT to do it.
But...still have not gotten my guts together to drive into Cairo yet.
oh...and being a blonde, foreigner,and a woman, can work to your advantage...when they see ya, they are too darn busy STARING with their mouths open...i take advantage of it...and FLY !

 

jeanbean
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Re: Moving to Cairo

Post Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:28 pm

Well, we have well and truly hiujacked this poor persons post with our tips for driving and crossing the road - Apologies 1crow - but it IS kind of worthwhile info for you to have....

jeanbean, i laughed out loud! How astute you really are, I genuinely think you have cracked it! Eureka!!!!! now everything makes sense, why do these people not look at you and pull out as if you aren't there? Now at LAST i know! It was torturing me! And just to say that you are bang on about the pulling out infront of a nice car.... we have a fully restored 1967 Merc - it's a total head turner, and you are so right, people seem to throw themselves and their vehicles in front of us with no warning ... because they know we'll stop!!! How clever of you!!

I do admit to using the Egyptian Human shield technique, but perhaps for less honorable motives, 'they can't hit all of us' so hide behind the fuller figure ones and let them absorb the impact.... that said, sadly the other day, one of the more colourful of our buildings residents was knocked down on the very road in front of our building - the street I used to get help crossing over... Thankfully she's OK, and will recover in a couple of weeks!

I find headlights, mirrors and brakes to be largely optional extras here in Alex, and thank GOD the Foglights are not available or removed before cars come to Egypt, think how many times you've been stuck behind someone with fog lights on, and thank your lucky stars they don't have them here.

Hubby has just put a sooper dooper new engine in the car, and offered for me to have a drive, perhaps when we go down to Cairo taking my mum for a visit.. I said no, but perhaps I should have one small attempt on the highway, when it's really quiet, straight and all going in one direction....

 

SCT107
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Re: Moving to Cairo

Post Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:54 pm

lol
when you said "sooper dooper" at first all I could envision is one of those things that are put on the front of the engine of a train...they are like "scoop things"...thought...geez, that would SURE come in handy. Could just "scoop" those idiots out of my way.
see...how bad I am !
And the first time I drove on the highway all by myself, I did it on a Friday, when everyone else was in the mosque for prayers...okay...so I cheated !
but the highways were clear, and it gave me a mini-feel of driving here.
then I built up my guts bit by bit.
oh...and a further chuckle. Told my hubby I wanted to buy a used TANK, and paint it pink...then they would get outa my way, huh?
or they would think that it was an invasion of the west...lol.
oh...I am just SOOO darn evil !

and as far as the crossing the road thing....thinking of one of those older, chubbier women, wearing all black...
see...am bad bad bad !

 

jeanbean
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