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Hello from a newbie who........

Post Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:43 pm

hasn't even started the process yet!!

First let me explain our situation. At the moment my wife is starting full time education to become a radiographer (she is already a qualified primary school teacher) and I am starting a part time degree course in business and finance (I am an area sales manager). We have 2 small children aged 4 and 3.

I would love to move to Canada for all the usual reasons, better quality of life, better prospects for the children when they grow up etc., the only drawback is my wife will not go as she is very close to her parents and does not want to leave them. I can understand this but I am thinking longer term. The reason I am getting my qualification is to improve my job prospects, after looking on Canadian job websites, the majority in my field require a degree.

I know it can be a long drawn out process emigrating, but we would not be looking to move until after we both qualify (4 years from now). If anyone has any information on the length of the process, job opportunites in Canada, standard of living, nice places to live etc so I can convince my wife, that would be great.

Sorry to bore you on my first post but any information I can get would be fantastic.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Many thanks

Andy

 

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Re: Hello from a newbie who........

Post Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:57 pm

If BOTH of you are not 100 percent in favour of coming to Canada, DON"T DO IT .

Fifty years of watching Brits come to Canada is my source for that comment. In the 1950's, my Parents rented out the second floor of our house in west end Toronto to a couple from Sussex. She hated it here, and made his life a misery, day after day.

Eventually , he sold his flooring business, all his tools and his van, and they went back home. Less than a year later, they were back in Canada, twenty thousand dollars poorer. Do think long and hard about this decision.

If your wife is resistant, ask her to say "exactly why " she doesn't want to come ? If it is the "distance " tell her that the airlines fly to the UK every day, all year.

Parents.......................tell her that once you have your Permanent Resident status, you can sponsor them to come here, under the "familiy re-unification plan " They do NOT have to meet the same standards as you and your wife do. Maybe that is the best news that you can tell her.

This website has a really good " search feature" that lets you put in phrases like " how to bring parents to Canada " which will bring up old threads with that subject in the title. Use it to read past discussions that will help you to understand the immigration process.

Again, I cannot stress enough, the need for BOTH of you to be in complete agreement , about immigration to Canada. Otherwise, it will kill your marriage, I'm not kidding.

Jim b. Toronto.

 

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Re: Hello from a newbie who........

Post Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:18 am

Hi

Yes, you really both need to want to do it....as Jim said.
Both myself and my husband really wanted to come to Canada......and even I had terrible homesickness which lasted for months and months and was becoming severe. I could not understand why I had it, but it was there day after day...and there was many a time I wanted to go back for my "English fix". I think my problem was that I had a great job back in the UK...and have not yet found the same kind of job in Canada.....but we are residents now and I would not go back to the UK...espcially after the constant stories of youths just wandering the streets with knives etc. I still have the odd day of home sickness but I make myself stop and think about what we have here and how lucky we have been to get through the long and stressful immigration process.

It is very hard when one person wants something like this and the other person doesn't, but you really cannot come here unless you are totally united in wanting this new life.....it will break you as a family as it is not as easy as some people make it out to be, even if you come here with buckets of money!
My hubby and I both have elderly parents back home....his mum and dad are very unwell........but we had to think of our children and the life we wanted for them.
If you haven't already, why don't you try and come here on a short vacation....see what you wife thinks, athough being somewhere on vacation and actually living it are completely different.

I hope this helps a bit, best wishes!

Mal


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Re: Hello from a newbie who........

Post Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:28 am

Hi Andy

Sorry I forgot to answer your questionabout about jobs etc
We initially came over on a work permit once hubby had secured a job. We sat down one weekend and faxed/emailed over 300 resumes to companies in Canada. Hubby is an electrician and trained fire/alarm technician. From 300 resumes, one company replied and were very interested in him and his years of experience. They flew him out and the next thing we knew....he had a job offer and the house was on the market....it all happened pretty quickly.
We live in Barrie which is about an hour or so North of Toronto. It is a great place to raise a family etc and is near to waterfronts, beaches and ski resorts. For me the downside is the winter.....it is pretty tough up here plus there is not the selection of jobs that you would probably get if you lived in or near to Toronto.
Canadians enjoy a high standard of living, food is always fresh and is in some respects cheaper than the UK...although I do miss Marks and Spencer!!! The children seem to be children for a lot longer out here.....they ride their bikes, play in the parks etc with no fear of being snatched off the streets. Our 7 year old regular plays outside with the other kids and we have no fear about him.....
I have not been here enough to tell you about other places to live as we are still deciding if Barrie is for us in the long term.....but there are plenty of people here who would be able to help you. My daughter has just graduated from high school and is taking a GAP year and going to UFT in Toronto next year....she cannot wait to get to Toronto as she misses the mix of peopleand experiences that you don't get in Barrie!

Mal


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Re: Hello from a newbie who........

Post Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:54 pm

Hi Jim and Mal,

Many, many thanks for your honest answers. It is something we will be thinking long and hard about. The only reason my wife is not keen to go is her parents. I know that they can follow on later but it is a case of if they will actually follow us.
We were talking today about the fact that neither of us have visited Canada and would come out first on a holiday but not just to do "holiday" stuff, we would look at cost of living and housing and the job market etc.
and of course there is the big question, where exactly do we live? I know that this will depend on jobs and schools for our 2 young children.

Thanks again

Andy

 

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Re: Hello from a newbie who........

Post Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:07 am

Hi Andy
We're in the process of moving to Canada, would have been there by now but we've had another addition to the family. We're going by temporary work permit. I must say that I did have mixed feeling about moving so far away at first because of my family and friends but I actually made a list of why I wanted to move and why stay in England. The good points about moving outweighed the good points for staying. My family (my mom in particular) were not, and still not, too keen on us moving, thought we were running away from something.
But over time they have come to realise that this is something that I and my family have to do - even if we can't make it work or something goes wrong, at least we have tried.
I would rather say "We tried living in another country but found we didn't like it/wasn't for us" than spend the rest of my life saying "If only"
I hope you and your wife every success in which ever decission you decide upon.

Hugs Adele


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Re: Hello from a newbie who........

Post Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:29 am

Hi Andy, i have got to say i agree with everything that has been said so far, it has to be a joint decision to make it work. As for the family, to be honest it's not a far as people think to come back and visit regularly, also family can come out for extended holidays. It is good you've both got studying to do as it gives you plenty of thinking time. But if you chose to go the PR route, it is a long process so it may be something to look at researching now while you're thinking.

Anyway, the guys on the site are fantstic, very helpful and supportive, if they don't have an answer they normally know someone who does or a site you can visit to help, so you are among friends Smile

I hope you and your wife can work through the decision making process without arguing to much, i know what it's like when you have a dream that others can't quite see Smile

Take care

Regards Beci x


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