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General advice about Kirkenes

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General advice about Kirkenes

Post Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:41 pm

Hi,

My partner & I will be moving to Kirkenes in February next year with his work (we're UK citizens). His contract is for 2 to 3 years, 2 minimum. I have quite a few questions although I have done endless research, it would be nice to get advice from anyone there/that's lived there before. Any advice at all will be most appreciated.

We're looking on a website for property www.finn.no/finn/reale...ngs/result
It's a very good site but there really isn't much about. His company will be paying the rent for us so I wonder how that would work in the application process? We will be getting a company car too so I wonder where other people park? I seem to only be able to find apartments, we'd prefer a house but if an apartment is all we can get, do you normally have allocated parking? Is there anywhere else I can search for property other than this site? Does anyone know of any estate agents in Kirkenes itself?

In the UK we have council tax, which is what pays for rubbish collection, police etc, are there particular taxes similar that you need to pay in Norway? If so, who do you pay & how do you arrange it & on average, how much is it? (There's only the 2 of us going). Apart from normal bills, gas, electric, food... are there any other things like TV licencing!!!?

I'm self employed & run mainly internet shops, I'd need a broadband connection, how long would it take to set that up? I've seen in places it takes around 3 months! If it's already in situ in the property, do you really need to wait that long?

That's all for now - I have more but this post is getting a bit long!!! Very Happy

 

charmed-imsure
Forum Leader - Norway
Forum Leader - Norway
 
 
  
Re: General advice about Kirkenes

Post Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:21 am

Phew..... where to start.....

OK, the easy one.... Broadband.... is very readily available but usually takes 3-4 weeks, even if the lie is in place, the problem your going to have is everything here is done on your identity number, without that they will not even place the order, you should try and get this sorted before you come to Norway, it takes about a month to get it now they centralised everything through Hammerfest.

Apartment or house, Apartments are a lot more common and available, and yes you will usually have allocated parking, quite often in a garage below the apartment block.

Council tax... refuge etc, will be included in the rent, it is the house owners responsibility to pay this annually, not as expensive as UK.

Bills etc, Broadband is around £20-£25 per month but for a much faster service, 10mb is not considered too fast here, have a look at www.telenor.no (equiv to BT) or Lyse, www.lyse.no Gas is not common in the home, nearly everything is electric, but is really cheap compared to UK prices, for instance we pay £80 per month for everything, heating, ligting, hot water etc, and we have 2 large heated aquariums, part of that is also to light the communal areas in the apartment block.

Finn.no is like the bible here for infomation, not sure about Kirkenes, (long way north...) I am nea Stavanger and looking for a place whilst in UK was a waste of time, in the end I travelled over and stayed in a hotel for a week whilst finding somewhere to live, Can your partners company not help out? If not, let me know and I can speak to our UK liason officer (we have an office near Kirkenes) and can try and get you some information of local estate agent and igloo builders.... Smile Or maybe my wife (she is Norwegian can look something up for you. As for your other post regarding health care, my wife is also a nurse, she is not sure about your situation as you would normally have to pay into the health system, but..., as you pay to see the doctor here in anycase, and for your prescriptions that should not be an issue, and it is not like the US where they wil refuse to treat you either, but... once again you will need to get your Identity numbers sorted to register with a doctor. Have a look at www.nav.no it deals with all health, work and social care type things, and is in English also. You got any more questions let me know and if I can help I will, otherwise, good luck.

Eamonn

 

eddyk
Forum Leader - Norway
Forum Leader - Norway
 
 
  
Re: General advice about Kirkenes

Post Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:45 pm

Thank you ever so much, that was all so helpful. Igloo builders... Shocked that was funny!!! Laughing

I would be ever so grateful if you could pop us in touch with the UK liaison. My partners' company will help us to find properties but I'm not sure I want them to, they'll probably stick us in shared accomodation completely unsuitable for us! I'd like to find ourselves a property really. His company have agreed to pay for private medical care for both of us which is nice, so we'd need to know a Bupa type similar scheme if you have one, or if it isn't necessary then he can just claim back medical expenses off them instead.

With regards to property, I have noticed a lot of apartments are listed in square metres, as well as rooms, that confuses me! We have a very large 2/3 bed house filled with furniture, ie: 2 double beds, 2 lots of furniture for double bedrooms, dining room fully furnished with large dining table & 4 chairs which also has full office equipment including 2 exec chairs... I've spotted a 3 bed apartment at 140m2 & can't picture whether that would easily house our furniture.

My partner is going to Norway (provisionally) on the 2nd February for 4 days so if we could arrange to have a meet with the UK liaison in Kirkenes, that would be fabulous!

Thanks ever so much for your help.

My only other concern is my little keyring business, I do intend to attempt to sell my skills in Kirkenes ie: touristy type keyrings, but I sell a great deal in the UK. I wondered how much it costs to post something from Norway to UK, about 5 x 3 inches weighing 0.24g?

 

charmed-imsure
Forum Leader - Norway
Forum Leader - Norway
 
 
  
Re: General advice about Kirkenes

Post Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:34 pm

Hi again,

OK, house sizes.... that confused me too, as in UK we say 2 or 3 bedroom house.... So for example, we moved from a 3 bedroomed country house in Devon and now live in a 140m2 apartment, my wife tells me it is about the same size as house in UK, is certainly more spacious than say a 2 bedroom Barratts home, we also have 2 large dogs and a cat, and to be honest, we have plenty of space, you should find that all apartments also come with a separate storage area, we have a 50m2 room across the hallway which is great for storing the extra kitchen stuff you use once a year, mine has become a home brewery and wine storage area.... I take it you know the cost of drinking here??

I will speak with our guy in the New year, unless your partner is going to be working for Statoil Hydro then he cannot deal with you direct but I will out what you want to know.

The post service in Norway is bad..... they make Royalmail look fantastic... I sent 2 letters, 1 to my brother in Afghanistan and 1 to Oslo, my brother got his 2 days before the company in Oslo.....

For that size package you would probably be using Posten, have a look here www.posten.no/Kundeservice they have the pricelist, also The Norwegian Government just love their taxes.... so you may also want to look at www.toll.no they have an English side to it.

What do you plan to do about transport? Cars here are really expensive, on average about £5k more than the same model in UK, you can bring your car here from the UK for 2 years max without having to pay import duty, again it has the information on the toll website. Also, bring as much luxury items with you as you can when you move as then it is classed as Personal effects and you do not have to pay tax, dont declare any items as being less than 1 year old, sofas, wardrobes etc.... they will tax you on it!

I will get back to you in the New Year when have spoken with chappy here, if you think of anything else you want me to ask him, let me know. Make the most of Christmas in UK this year... is very VERY different here....

Regards

Eamonn

 

eddyk
Forum Leader - Norway
Forum Leader - Norway
 
 
  
Re: General advice about Kirkenes

Post Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:30 pm

Thanks for getting back so quickly

I will be working for a UK company as the MD of our compnay in Norway.

My company is supplying a fully expensed vehicle, Privaye Health care, Tax free salary paid into my UK bank, paying the rent in full, paying all utility bills and also giving us flights back to the UK each year, so not a bad package.

If you can get a contact or web address of an estate agents in Kirkenes, it would be appreciated.

Have a good christmas, cant wait till next christmas, at least it will be white LOL

Regards

Tony

 

charmed-imsure
Forum Leader - Norway
Forum Leader - Norway
 
 
  
Re: General advice about Kirkenes

Post Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:49 am

(That last message was from my partner!)

My Partner is going to be working on a contract on the Syvaranger Mines but not for Sydvaranger Mines.

The storage space in the house' itinery sounds great & the area space now sounds quite ideal, I also know the cost of alcohol (big cry).

Transport wise, the company are providing a car so we're not worried about that.

As for Xmas, I don't celebrate it these days, I don't celebrate new year either - what happens there Christmas day? I'd be glad to try something else even it's a normal day! We have no children so it's kind of no big deal now. Besides, it's really about religion & we're of no fixed religion. (I'd like to meet Santa though lol)

Many thanks again for your help. You've been great.

 

charmed-imsure
Forum Leader - Norway
Forum Leader - Norway
 
 
  
Re: General advice about Kirkenes

Post Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:27 am

Hmmm, what happens Xmas day...... nothing really, the main day here is xmas eve as we know it, pubs open on xmas day though and not just for lunch time either!

OK, estate agents in Kirkenes....

www.eiendomsmegler1.no...ageID=5095

www.zett.no/leilighet_...nmark.html

also is worth contacting the local kommune, www.kirkenes.no/ and asking them of private landlords, they are usually pretty helpful.

Alcohol prices....I know, my newest and most favorite hobby is Home Brew, I would of done it anyway.... honest.... you cannot get real ales here, well you can in Oslo but they consider Newcastle Brown Ale a real ale Confused

Anyway, hope you move goes well, not long now.... don't hesitate to contact me if there is anything else our not sure about, before or after you move (even beer recipes), happy to help so people avoid my pitfalls.... dont tell the locals you dont believe in religion though! Is still quite popular here,

Regards

Eamonn

 

eddyk
Forum Leader - Norway
Forum Leader - Norway
 
 
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