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MOTORWAY TOLLS, the saga rolls on

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MOTORWAY TOLLS, the saga rolls on

Post Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:25 pm

European Transport Commission requests Portugal to comply with rules on the charging of heavy goods vehicles

Interesting link in particular the line
The reason for this request
The Portuguese law transposing the Euro vignette Directive contains a provision that leaves concession toll systems entirely outside the scope of the directive. The Commission considers this to be contrary to the directive. In addition, Portugal failed to comply with the obligation to communicate to the Commission information on the calculation of the tolls for newly introduced tolling arrangements.
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europa.eu/rapid/pressR...anguage=en

The action instigated by the EEC follows a complaint by Spain in relation to the introduction of tolls last October on the A28

Perhaps there is another directive that we are not aware of concerning the rest of us.

It will be very interesting what action Portugal will take, if any?

Watch this space


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Re: MOTORWAY TOLLS, the saga rolls on

Post Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:14 pm

- nandnjudge

European Transport Commission requests Portugal to comply with rules on the charging of heavy goods vehicles

Interesting link in particular the line
The reason for this request
The Portuguese law transposing the Euro vignette Directive contains a provision that leaves concession toll systems entirely outside the scope of the directive. The Commission considers this to be contrary to the directive. In addition, Portugal failed to comply with the obligation to communicate to the Commission information on the calculation of the tolls for newly introduced tolling arrangements.
Link
europa.eu/rapid/pressR...anguage=en

The action instigated by the EEC follows a complaint by Spain in relation to the introduction of tolls last October on the A28

Perhaps there is another directive that we are not aware of concerning the rest of us.

It will be very interesting what action Portugal will take, if any?

Watch this space



On the basis of past perfomance, the PT government will probably ignore this until forced to do it by the imposition of fines.

 

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Re: MOTORWAY TOLLS, the saga rolls on

Post Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:22 am

looked at a newspaper report at the weekend from the Portugal News saying the first three cameras on the A23 go live tomorrow 1st Nov. From Entroncamento to Santa Cita.

We are coming to Portugal in November and have hired a car. I sopke with the hire company tonight, who are fully aware of the new electronic tolls, and they told me all their hire cars have been registered and have on board registration cards and the customer will be billed for all electronic tolls via the credit card used to book the car.


:plane:

 

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Re: MOTORWAY TOLLS, the saga rolls on

Post Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:39 am

Another welcome delay for the A22 tolls.

www.algarveresident.co...sion-again

 

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Re: MOTORWAY TOLLS, the saga rolls on

Post Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:19 pm

According to PT media:

The President of the Republic of Portugal, Cavaco Silva today requested 'clarification' from the Government on the statute that seeks to impose tolls on formerly free SCUT roads, including the A22 Via do Infante in the Algarve.

"The draft law was received by the Office of the President on October 20th for legal and economic analysis by the Casa Civil. Yesterday the Government was asked for some clarifications on the legal processes. In the terms of the Constitution the President has 40 days in which to pass the bill" according to the Presidential website.
The president has until the end of November to decide whether or not the statute will be enacted.

 

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MOTORWAY TOLLS, the saga rolls on

Post Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:35 pm

I am not an economist, I am not an accountant but reading this

Tolls paid by motorists are not expected to cover the full cost of operating the respective motorways, with the government having already committed to paying road companies compensation for loss of revenue due to drivers diverting to secondary roads.

“Even after we have introduced tolls, we will have an accumulated debt of around 21 billion euros by 2030. It is unsustainable”, Minister of Economy Alváro Santos Pereira explained last month, leaving the door open for tolls to be systematically increased above inflation with every passing year or even shorter intervals.


in the www.theportugalnews.com/ does not make sense. Why not put 1 or 2 cents on to the price of fuel or is that too simplistic?? Rolling Eyes

 

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Re: MOTORWAY TOLLS, the saga rolls on

Post Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:20 pm

"Tolls paid by motorists are not expected to cover the full cost of operating the respective motorways, with the government having already committed to paying road companies compensation for loss of revenue due to drivers diverting to secondary roads."

So, the more tolls increase, the more motorists divert to secondary roads, then the more the government has to pay to the road companies to compensate for their loss of business, so the more the government has to increase the tolls to cover the compensation thay have had to pay to the road companies because of the fewer number of motorists using the motorway since the government introduced tolls.

Kafka would be proud of this example of governmental logic. Isn't there anybody up there with a quarter of a brain?

Confused

 

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