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Post Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:20 pm

Hi Everyone,

I have read the posts here and they are indeed very useful.

I am from Malaysia, and has done the 'points system' for immigration to Canada. I would say that I qualified.

I love the outdoors. I am not keen to stay in a metropolitan-style surrounding anymore, since I was born-in and grew up in such a place. Where would you recommend that I go to please ?

I intend to travel from Vancouver to Toronto sometime soon. I hoped this will allow me to see more of your lovely contry, both the cities and the countryside. Is this a good way please ?

What do Canadians think of Malaysians please ? After all, Malaysia is not a G8 Country,.........

Appreciated advice from everybody. Thanks in advance.



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Post Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:02 am

Your plan is a good one, and it will allow you to see a variety of places in Canada. Vancouver is a destination for many Pacific nations people, from The Phillipines, China, and Viet Nam, to name only a few.

I live in Toronto and my next door neighbour is an ehtnic Chinese guy, who was born in Malaysia, and who came to Canada in 1970, to attend York University here in Toronto. He is now a fully qualified chef, who owns his own catering business. He just came back from KL after being there for the Chinese New Year, to visit his family. He is married to a woman who is also a chef, a pastry chef, who is of Italian ancestry, but born in Canada.

Smaller cities in Canada that you should look at are Edmonton, Alberta, Winnipeg, Manitoba, London, Ontario, and Halifax. Nova Scotia. Each of them has a population of half a million people or less. Remember that the total population of Canada is only 32 million people. The largest city is Toronto with about 2.5 million within the city limits. Vancouver is about two thirds of that number, with Montreal having the same population as Vancouver.

How do you intend to travel with-in Canada?

Flying over the country does not give you much to see. Travel by car will amaze you, with the huge distances between towns and cities. If you were to drive from Vancouver to the east coast of Canada on the Atlantic Ocean, it would take you 7 to 10 days and you would be travelling over 7,000 kilometres, and to complete that trip you would need to be driving for AT least 12 hours of EVERY day, for over a week. Did I mention that Canada is the second largest country in the world? Only Russia is bigger than Canada.

If you don't want to drive across from Van to Toronto, take the bus. A great way to see the country and MEET Canadians of all kinds. Buy a 30 day pass that allows you to get on and off as you like, in any city. The buses run on a conecting schedule, so you can get to Toronto in about 7 to 8 days depending on how many times you get off to sleep in a hotel, and to get a shower and a meal. Sleeping on the inter city bus is NOT reccomended, as it is very uncomfortable. The buses stop about every 6 hours for meals. It is a lot cheaper than the train, however.

I'd suggest doing it this way, leave Vancouver and get to Calgary, take a break, on to Winnipeg, take a break, Winnipeg to Sault St Marie, take a break, on to Toronto, you are now about 8 days on the road, and are in the big city of Toronto.

Try to get to some of the surrounding smaller cities like Guelph, Cambridge, Kitchener-Waterloo, and London, All are within 150 miles of Toronto, and each has it's own business and industrial sectors, with good employment and housing, Even smaller places are ........Brantford, Paris, Milton and St Jackobs.

What type of employment are you seeking? What qualifications do you hold? Are you coming alone, or do you have a family and kids?

If you have been reading this forum you will have seen some of my replies to others who want to Immigrate to Canada. I'm a retired former member of the Canadian Armed Forces, and I enjoy telling people about my country and it's culture and history.

I'm sure that you have more questions, so ask away here.

Jim Bunting. Toronto. Ontario. Canada.


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 4:48 pm


Many thanks again for your detailed advice.

I understood perfectly your travelling plans, 'cos I have also done some researching earlier.

I am, by profession, a Hardware Engineer. Holds Professional / Trades Qualifications in Telecommunications and Electrical Engineering.

I worked with The IBM Corporation in Malaysia for many years, before I left to start-up my own company. My company is doing okay, and I would have the funds if need to.

I could immigrate to Canada as either : a professional / tradesman or as an investor.

Personally, I may not wish to work in Canada anymore. I am only thinking about the future of my children (as you have advised in some of your postings in this forum). I have 2 children - one boy and one girl.

I would appreciate your further thoughts on my situation, Sir,........


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Re: Advice !

Post Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:41 pm

The fact that you have previously been employed by IBM should come in handy if you want to apply for similar positions in Canada. WE need people with your type of training here.

Do you have any idea where in Canada you might want to live?

Jim B Toronto.


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Re: Advice !

Post Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:05 am


Thank you for your reply again.

I have friends in Toronto too, but I'm still keeping my options opened. I may not wish to live in a city anymore, prehaps in the country-side. Some pros of this that I have thought of would be :-

1) It's different being in a Canadian countryside. I would like to experience
this difference.

2) The Cost of Living would be cheaper, ie the price of food, lodging,
everyday use items, etc. I go back to another of your earlier posts :
it's all a matter of choice. Thus, choose wisely.

This is another reason why I would like to see as much of Canada as possible, to help me make a choice.

Kindly advise me on the following :-

1) How are the folks in the countryside ?

2) How is the lifestyle there ?

3) How cheap are the things / items in the countryside ?

4) Additional comments about the countryside.

Once again, thank you, Sir,..........


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:15 am


You were saying earlier that it would be good for our future generation when we moved to Canada.

Can you kindly elaborate on this please ?

Some benefits that I could think of would be Canada is more convenient (yes, I have seen the industrialised countries are indeed convenient : the public amenities are well=planned and easily accessible), the better education for th e children and perhaos the the healthcare standard too.

Am I correct on the above please ? Are these more to add ?


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country versus the city.

Post Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:15 pm


I will combine this answer to your two past questions.

First. let me preface my comments by setting out what I call a "small city " in Canada. This would have a population of 25,000 to 150,000 people. An example in the Province of Ontario would be either London, Barrie or Kingston. All are within 175 miles from Toronto. All have large commercial and industrial areas, and two of them ( London and Kingston ) have Uinversities. The University of Western Ontario is in London, and Queen's University is in Kingston. London is to the west of Toronto, Kingston is to the east, and Barrie is about 50 miles to the north of Toronto.

My idea is to set out what an even smaller town is like. A smaller town in Ontario would have a population of under 25,000 down to less than 5,000 people. Examples in southern Ontario might be Milton, Allison, Owen Sound, or Orillia. Each of them has a main industry, such as the Honda Canada car making plant at Alliston that employs about 6,000 people, who commute to the plant from a 50 mile radius of the town.

Orillia is located on Lake Couchiching, and it's main industry is tourisim. With a population of about 25,000 people, it is a main destination both winter and summer for recreational activities like boating and fishing in summer, and skiing and snowmobiling in winter. It is also the Headquarters of the Ontario Provincial Police service. The OPP has about 6,000 uniform officers and has jursidiction in ALL of Ontraio. There are also city Police services, such as the Toronto Police Service.

The OPP HQ has over 1500 employees and across the street is the Ontario Police College, which has a staff of over 100 intstructors. All new Police officers in Ontario attend that college, before they are considered to be qualified . Officers come back for advanced courses in investigations, forensic sciences and to prepare for their University degrees in Criminology or Police managment studies.

Owen Sound is a another small town, located on the shores of Georgian Bay, a large body of water that is a part of Lake Huron. Southern Ontario is surrounded by the five Great Lakes, and we are blessed with many great places to enjoy water sports everywhere in Ontario. How many lakes are there in Ontario? Over 250,000 LAKES are in Ontario, and only about one third of them have names, the rest are simply numbered.

You asked me about small town life, so I will answer you this way............

If you want to live where the next house is two miles away, seek a country house. If you don't want to drive 30 miles to get to a store, don't buy in a farming district. Instead, look at the small towns. Buy in or near a small town.

Houses are cheaper in a small town, than in a bigger city. In summer, the local farmers will have lots of fresh foods for sale. Shopping for clothes and shoes will not have as many choices in a small town as there are fewer stores to choose from. People are friendly and they are used to the idea of "newcomers" as we get lots of Immigrants, even in a small town. To fit in, join in the activities, become a volunteer in a local club or charity, or take a class at the local night school. Listen, and ask questions to learn about the area.

Depending on what features you consider to be important in a house, you can buy a good brick 3 bedroom house with an attached garage and a fully finished basement in a small town in Ontario for between $150,000 CDN and $250,000 CDN. Small town lots are usually BIG with lots of grass and trees, and many have extras such as a swimming pool, or workshop building, or fireplaces. Most of us have cable tv and computer service in the home, and as a matter of fact, Canada has a national program that has as it's goal to have a computer for EVERY CHILD in their elementary school class rooom by 2008. Canada is the most connected country in the world now, with more than 68 percent of all our homes having a computer that is connected to the Internet.

Now I will turn to the second set of questions that you asked me.

Canada is a stable, peacefull and prosperous country, with NO history of wars or civil unrest. WE have a progessive and future-minded country that has a high value currency with very low inflation. Our dollar is at a 30 year high compared to the USA dollar. In a survey of the residents of 45 nations, Canadians had the MOST positive outlook about their own futures, and those of their children. WHY is that?

Canada is Peacefull and Safe, and our biggest single national budget item is Education, followed by health care spending. We care for our poor and the elderly, and have had national programs for the good of all, for more than 50 years.

We have a big beautiful country with lots of room to expand our population, and we are also a world leader in high tech innovations and the use of satellite communications. Canada was the first nation to launch a non-military communications satellite, in 1966. Now we have 11 of them in orbit. With 6 time zones in Canada we need to have them to keep in touch across this vast country.

I hope that some of this has been usefull to you. Do some Goggle searches for those town names, to see more information.

Jim b Toronto.


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