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decent living

Post Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 4:55 pm

hi,
we r moving to netherlands with 2 infants, and the company has offered 4000 euros per month after tax deduction. could u please tell me if this is enough to make a decent living, without comprimising our childrens need?
we plan to buy a car, is that sensible? coz we r from india, an all year summer place, and we don't think our kids will be able to cope with the winter there. please advice.
thanks.
Tasha.

 

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:08 pm

Tasha, It all depends on what part of Holland you will be living. But I think the salary is pretty good. As for a car, again, depends on where you will be living and traveling. I think you can check on real estate sites to find pricing for housing in whatever area you will be living. AS for a car, they are expensive to buy and drive here, not just the gas prices but road taxes quarterly depending on the size car you have. Also getting a Dutch driver's license is not an easy task. Possibly through your husband's employer he might be able to secure a license through his job. Not sure but that is something I would have him check on before moving and purchasing a car. Public transportation is very good in most places here but again, it all depends on what area you will be living. Good luck. Martha

 

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:03 pm

Hi martha,
thanx so much for taking time out and helping with my questions. we r moving to amsterdam around june. so iam trying to get as much info about the place as possible. yeah, i heard public transportation is good, but the point is that i always take my kids wherever i go, and if i wanna go to a grocery store or something in winter, how will the kids be able to handle the weather in a tram or a bus? and handling all the grocery and the kids can get pretty tough, rite? we plan to live in the city and the rent runs up to around 1500 euros a month, is that rite? any other info is also appreciated. thanks again.
tasha.

 

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:06 pm

Hi Tasha,
Well, I hate to burst your bubble haha..but if you are going to live in the city then a car will do you no good at all for grocery shopping. First of all, parking is a big problem. Its not like it is in the U.S. where you just pull up in front of the store and run in and out. No way!! haha. So to find a parking place for your car you might have to park as far away as you are living. So taking the bus or tram to the grocery is an every day thing here in Holland for all mothers. Kids included. In fact, most mothers here are seen on bicycles with a child on the back, one on a little bike and bags on either side of the bike filled with groceries and even holding an umbrella!! Amazing!! But I cannot reinforce enough that going to the grocery here is nothing like going to the grocery in the U.S. Its a total different experience but driving and parking close to the store is almost if not impossible because there is no parking at most stores, especially in the city. You mode of transporation around the city with your kids is going to be on the buses and trams, I promise. NO way will you be driving a car in the city to go shopping.

Coming to Holland, your kids will get use to the cold and rain and wind. Its that way a lot of the time and you can't get away from it no matter what part of the country you live. But parking you car, if you can find a garage and then walking several miles to get to the store and then walking several miles back with your bags and with two kids, they will get more cold than going in the bus or tram.

AS to the rent, yeah that sounds about right. Its soo expensive in the city but that does not sound unreasonable at all. I don't know if you are moving furniture but if you are, remember that the houses/apartments here are much smaller than in a lot of places. I would suggest strongly that you check the place out before you move anything, if you already haven't. You will be sorry if you don't because it could be a real reality check.

I am not trying to scare you but am just trying to give you a realistic picture of how things are done here and what is easy and what isn't.
Any other questions you might have, let me know and I will do what I can to help you prepare for your move. I am owner of a group on yahoo comprised of expat women, some with children. If you would be interested in joining the group, let me know. Its a great group of women, all english speaking and all ages.

Martha

 

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Post Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:14 pm

hi martha,
wow, that was a lot of information, all i needed to know about grocery shopping i think!
one more question please....my kids are american citizens. they will be on a temporary visa, but to register them there in amsterdam, does that require renewed birth certificate? my husband and i had to get a newly issued birth certificate from the indian government, will my kids need one from america? coz, if thats the case, then wouldn't that be a huge problem, coz then we'll have to go to the states to get a new certificate. please advise.
thanks a ton.
tasha.
ps: are all the food items labelled in english or dutch? and yes, i would love to join your group.

 

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Post Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:28 pm

Tasha,
I am not really sure about the kid's birth certificates, but I really do think they would have to have them. Check out the www.ind.nl site and also the American consulate site. I THINK??? you can request their birth certificates from there so maybe where you are you might check with the American consulate/embassy and see if you cannot get them before you come to the Netherlands. I know they do now require children to have their own passports to travel so I would check that out with the American Embassy also.

Yes, food is labeled in Dutch. It doesn't take too long to figure out what is what and if you join my group, we can help you with your grocery shopping. We all know what things are called and how to find anything you want. If you will email me your email address, I will send you an invitation to join our group. My email is m_andrus @ yahoo.com

Martha

 

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Re: decent living

Post Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:40 pm

hi martha,
thnx for the info. my e-mail address is tasrazvi @ yahoo.com.
tasha.

 

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