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Police State

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Police State

Post Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:08 am

I am sure that most of those who read this Forum have seen what is happening to this country.

I have lived here for 13 years; this is now my home and I do enjoy it. I have never had any regrets moving here.

But it saddens me to see what is happening. I'm sure that I don't need to list the many instances where this country is, once more, becoming a police state. You only need to read the papers, read the local press reports, look on the Internet etc.

So many of our friends have sold up and have left, or are leaving this country. Even the few young Portuguese that we know have decided to leave the country. The bureaucracy has become unbearable. The intimidation daunting. The harrassment unbearable.

What is it? ....25+% unemployed in the under 25's.

If my understanding is correct, even the Government here are encouraging youngsters to move abroad for work.

We will be left with no young generation; just a population of old retired people.

Sorry to sound negative but I feel that someone has to state the plain facts. Anyone who is contemplating a move to Portugal at the moment should seriously think twice about it. This is no longer the country that it was 15-20 years ago. It has reverted to being a police state.


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Re: Police State

Post Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:43 am

Rod don't no whether you are a member of facebook but there is a page on the GNR regarding motoring and whats going on at the moment with them stopping people and fining them for anything and everything, very interesting, this is the link if your interested. www.facebook.com/group...ment_reply

 

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Re: Police State

Post Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:34 pm

Portugal a Police state? I'm sorry, but this is a ridiculous overstatement presumably based on a raid on a car boot sale, people being fined for motoring offences, hardly comparable to China/Russia/Cuba/Zimbabwe. It may not be the same as it was 15-20 years ago but neither is the UK and I'd rather live here than there Rolling Eyes

 

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Re: Police State

Post Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:57 pm

- rodstocker


blah, blah, blah et al .....

...... Anyone who is contemplating a move to Portugal at the moment should seriously think twice about it. This is no longer the country that it was 15-20 years ago. It has reverted to being a police state.



What a disgraceful post, Rod; where does THAT fit in with the very first line of the 1st search result for `EXPAT FOCUS`, viz Information and advice for expats living abroad ?

Mind you, at least consistent in maintaining your recent “woe is me, for I have absolutely NO CHOICE” stance; and in line with so-called managements` belittling of our inadequacies relative to “much busier communities”.

Hope you`re better soon.

Mad


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... only highlighting a point about which I am concerned.

 

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Re: Police State

Post Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:05 pm

The definition of "Police state" is debatable, but I agree with Rod on this.
Rules that no one even understands are being enforced with heavy punitive fines.
The country is too bureaucratic, over taxed, and over policed.

 

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Re: Police State

Post Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:06 pm

More that the country is short of money so GNR are encouraged to collect their salaries, I'd side with wrebwen

 

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Re: Police State

Post Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:46 pm

- liveaboard

The definition of "Police state" is debatable, but I agree with Rod on this.
Rules that no one even understands are being enforced with heavy punitive fines.
The country is too bureaucratic, over taxed, and over policed.



Is it getting worse or are you all just becoming more aware of it?

 

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