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Will I get in trouble? Nothing done since moving here June

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Will I get in trouble? Nothing done since moving here June

Post Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:26 pm

I’m hoping you can help me with some advice.

I moved to Spain in June last year but as I continue to work for the same company in the UK and continue to be paid into my UK account I’ve gotten by without needing to declare my residency here. I think I’ve been a bit naive though and should have done something sooner.

I want to do things by the book but I’m wondering if I’m likely to get in trouble with anything? Anyone have any advice on what I should first / next?

Am I likely to have to pay any fines or unpaid tax?

Thank you in advance.

 

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Post Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:33 pm

- cantthinkofanything

I’m hoping you can help me with some advice.

I moved to Spain in June last year but as I continue to work for the same company in the UK and continue to be paid into my UK account I’ve gotten by without needing to declare my residency here. I think I’ve been a bit naive though and should have done something sooner.

I want to do things by the book but I’m wondering if I’m likely to get in trouble with anything? Anyone have any advice on what I should first / next?

Am I likely to have to pay any fines or unpaid tax?

Thank you in advance.



I doubt that you will get into any trouble at this stage.

The correct procedure when moving to Spain is that after 90 days you should sign on the foreigners register and obtain your NIE number. That will get you your "residencia" card. But......you will have to supply proof of where you live (by means of a rental agreement or deeds to your house). You will be required to prove that you have full healthcare cover (as you are below retirement age you will have to have private healthcare) You will also need to prove to the authorities that you have enough regular income which is sufficient to satisfy the authorities you will not become a burden on the state. That "income" figure varies as to where you live.

After living legally here in Spain for 183 days you are deemed to be a Tax resident and be expected to pay taxes to the Spanish authorities. You will need to fill in the double taxation agreement forms and send them to HMRC so you only pay taxes to the Spanish tax man instead of HMRC.

You will also be required to fill in Modelo 720 which requires you to declare your total "worldwide" wealth including amounts in bank accounts and any property ownership in any country.

When I came to live here in Spain I engaged a local solicitors to do all those requirements for both myself and my wife. They obtained all the necessary forms and completed them in Spanish and all i had to do was sign some paperwork. All sorted in a matter of weeks. They do all my tax returns each year too!

Don't forget there is only about a year to get legal before Brexit. After that date things may change dramatically especially for those not "Legal" in Spain!!

Steve


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tebo53
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Re: Will I get in trouble? Nothing done since moving here June

Post Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:11 pm

Hello,

Steve is not the expert he likes to seen as. I would suggest you see a lawyer/accountant and discuss your specific situation. Every situation is different. And don't worry about Brexit. Nothing will happen and there is no "getting legal" required. You are legal. You are British.

There is no Residencia "card" and you don't need to do anything regarding residency. You do require an NIE if you don't have one already. But you will need to sort your tax reporting.

You don't NEED healthcare. There is no law to get it. You could go private if you wish.

There is so much mis-leading information from people who have no right to advise. Just go and see a lawyer and describe your situation. I have a lawyer who is also an accountant and that is very handy. Mine will give me advice without charging me even so if you can find the right person then you will get the right advice for your situation.

Just don't worry. Many people in Spain continue to live here without submitting tax returns. But your accountant/lawyer can advise you. Good luck.

 

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Post Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:50 pm

- kdpunshon

Hello,

Steve is not the expert he likes to seen as. I would suggest you see a lawyer/accountant and discuss your specific situation. Every situation is different. And don't worry about Brexit. Nothing will happen and there is no "getting legal" required. You are legal. You are British.

There is no Residencia "card" and you don't need to do anything regarding residency. You do require an NIE if you don't have one already. But you will need to sort your tax reporting.

You don't NEED healthcare. There is no law to get it. You could go private if you wish.

There is so much mis-leading information from people who have no right to advise. Just go and see a lawyer and describe your situation. I have a lawyer who is also an accountant and that is very handy. Mine will give me advice without charging me even so if you can find the right person then you will get the right advice for your situation.

Just don't worry. Many people in Spain continue to live here without submitting tax returns. But your accountant/lawyer can advise you. Good luck.



I sincerely hope that when (or IF) you and your cat come to reside in Spain that you take your own (above) advise then at least you won't be here to long.

As we've discussed in a previous post about the 183 day taxation rule, your solicitor is giving you incorrect (free) information about the requirements to be legal here in Spain. To be fully legal to gain your Residencia or residency you require an NIE number a regular income also healthcare.

As you say, and I have also advised the poster to see a solicitor. The information I have given is 100% correct about the requirements to be legal in Spain. It will be up to the poster to decide which route to follow.

Steve


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tebo53
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Re: Will I get in trouble? Nothing done since moving here Ju

Post Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:18 am

Hello @kdpunshon and @ tebo53.

Thank you both for taking the time to reply. Forgetting the specifics on which you disagree Wink , you do seem to agree that I shouldn't panic and that I should find a lawyer and ideally an accountant so I'll focus on doing that as my next step.

On that subject, do you have any advice on where to start my search for one? I'm in Barcelona in case you're able to recommend one here but if not, I'll conduct my own search.

Of course I can Google this but perhaps you may be able to provide some sort of directory of accredited / proven lawyers.

Many thanks,

 

cantthinkofanything
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Re: Will I get in trouble? Nothing done since moving here June

Post Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:09 pm

I cant help with any recommendations for Solicitors in your area.

I would be good for other future posters though if you could report back here about the requirements that your solicitor recommend for you to be fully legal in Spain i.e. income, healthcare etc.

Steve


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tebo53
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