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Sick in the Sun

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Sick in the Sun

Post Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:35 pm

Hello,
Did any members see the ITV Tonight programme Mon. 29th Jan 2007 "Sick in the Sun" ?

Any comments... personal experiences ? please.

We are progressing in our move to Spain - we have absolutely no family left here in the UK and have tried to investigate the issue of when we are no longer able to drive/have mobility/need care.

Our personal experience in the UK is that if one is no longer able to look after partner then the state must do the job - at the cost of all assets (house/pensions etc).
Is that the way in Spain ( probably Alicante region ) ?

I must say it is the one big unknown.
BUT we do NOT feel that we would actually be looked after here in the UK - so although not burying our heads in the sand it does often come into conversation that we take our chances in the sun rather than in this miserable place now!

The programme just kinda jolts us to research and research once again !

Hey ! Still going to do it though !

Would love to read any advice.
Cheers,
Topsy.

 

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Re: Sick in the Sun

Post Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:12 pm

Health is a major consideration when moving here.
You don't say if you are of retirement age, so I will assume neither of you are.

When you move here you get form E106 from the Dept of Work and this form will allow you up to two years health care in Spain, unless you live in Valencia and here it seems to be longer. From the end of those two years up to when one of you reaches retirement age you will need to take out some kind of cover unless you are working over here and paying into the system.

When one of you becomes of retirement age you are both able to have the same health care as a Spanish National. Now, the Spanish system somewhat relies on the relatives for aftercare. For instance in hospital quite often the relatives will bring in food, and many hospitals allow one relative to stay with the "inmate" until he/she is well enough to go home.

There are senior citicens homes springing up now, but in the past the ball has been very much in the relatives court to look after their relatives.

I didn't see the programme, but from a raging debate I have seen on another forum it would appear that those in question didn't take the necessary planning for their health when they came here and didn't bother to learn sufficient Spanish.

 

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Re: Sick in the Sun

Post Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:51 pm

Hello Mitzyboy and thanks for your reply.

Oh - yes.....I am already a UK pensioner .. husband has another 3 years to go... but we are leaning towards the Alicante region and from what we have researched.... I will fall into the Spanish system as a pensioner, (and although husband will qualify for the remaining years with cover from the UK himself ) ... he will be covered on my qualification in Spain.

The programme just made us think once again about the time when we may not be able to care for each other or ourselves.
We had personal experience with mother-in-law who passed away after a sudden debilitating illness - and our comments of the LACK of help and support ALL of us received in the UK, are not printable!

The only family left - two young daughters, who are making their lives in Australia - means that we will be on our own to get through such a period in our lives should it happen.

We feel that we are not going to be any worse off being out in Spain ... and yes what we read into that programme was that some of the people concerned had not done any homework, or took friends' "gossip" only as fact.

If you are permitted to post the name of other forum where debate is raging I would be interested to read the comments.

And still ... if anyone has any experience of how the Spanish system works re care for some-one with NO family nearby.

Many thanks,
Cheers,
Topsy

 

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Re: Sick in the Sun

Post Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:49 am

Yes we watched this program too and it gave us a sleepless night ! Thanks for your reply Mitzyboy its put our minds at rest ! Smile

 

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Re: Sick in the Sun

Post Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:15 am

- julienjake

Yes we watched this program too and it gave us a sleepless night ! Thanks for your reply Mitzyboy its put our minds at rest ! Smile



Trust me .... your biggest worry over here will be health (if you are older) coupled with work. If you get the health sorted (and there are cheaper options for private health care over here) then you're half way there

 

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Re: Sick in the Sun

Post Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:28 am

Hi

I watched the programme and felt the same, that the people concerned hadn't researched sufficiently and had only listened to heresay. I also have had experience of care homes here in the UK with my mother, what a nightmare. We had to sell her home and pay for her keep in the home until most of her savings had gone. I don't think the Spanish system can be any worse than ours. We are still looking forward to our new life in Spain.

 

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Re: Sick in the Sun

Post Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:34 pm

Hello,
Many thanks for your replies.
Husband & I have had a lot of talking this point over.... and yes have come to the conclusion that research was not done in most cases.... and that WE are not going to be any worse off in Spain.

Would still like to hear just how the system works though IF a person needed care when NO FAMILY may be around ?

The forum is wonderful, in that doubts arise and they can get thrashed out on here to hear other views etc. In this case we now know that we are still on the right track!

Walkinonsunshire - I VERY much sympathise with your experience.... same here - mother-in-law worked way past retirement age - never had a break and when she & us needed help the only important words were..."house" ....."savings"...

Yes - we are still very much looking forward to our new life - hoping to have house up for sale quite soon now.

Cheers,
Topsy

 

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